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That issue contained "Guardians", which introduced Tuf as a tall lanky languid ivory-white vegetarian lover of cats. Tuf travels space in his Ark, a biological laboratory and DNA warehouse, looking for planets that can use and afford his services. The book is made up of seven stories: an introductory novella recounting how Tuf went from being a trader in treasures actually, more like junk to acquiring the Ark and becoming a planetary ecological engineer.

There are three stand-alone stories, of which "Guardians" is one, and which appear interspaced with three stories about a planet with a runaway overpopulation problem. Martin gives us light, entertaining stories with characters that are almost three dimensional. If you are a science fiction fan, you can't go wrong. If you are not a science fiction fan but you wonder what it's all about, you still won't go wrong.

If you are coming from Game of Thrones and want more Martin, you won't go wrong. And if you want to read some Martin but you find Game of Thrones too long, then Tuf Voyaging is ideal. Vincent Poirier, Quebec City. Martin is prolific but not punctual - and so as millions await the next installment of The Song of Ice and Fire, Bantam Books had to settle for repackaging a series of Martin's novellas to try and satisfy the masses. There are seven pieces in the book, all written between and , and they range in quality from excellent "The Plague Star" to filler "Manna from Heaven".

That said, Martin's filler is as good as most writers' best efforts, so "Tuf Voyaging" is an engaging, if not substantial, read. To reveal much more than I have already would spoil the fun of "Plague Star," which begins the collection, so I'll leave it at this: Yes, the material is from early in his career, but even though it's not fully realized Martin, it's still awfully good.

I have read all of those books, several of them more than once, so I wanted to try his other stories. I ran across Tuf in Dreamsongs, Volume 2 and then realized there was a whole book about him! The story in Dreamsongs is also in Tuf Voyaging. My frustration with A Game of Thrones etc is that there are so many characters and storylines that things get confusing.

Everything in Tuf Voyaging centers on Haviland Tuf. There is only one other major recurring character. And, each of the stories has a clear problem and resolution. Essentially Tuf becomes the sole proprietor of a starship that has the cloned DNA of every creature from hundreds of worlds.

This gives him god-like powers. He goes to planets that have a biological problem and think of a clever solution. How he fixes the situation is never quite how his clients expect. He always fulfills his promises; but then he gives them unexpected bonuses I really hope that he writes more about Tuf's voyages! A selection of stories, not a novel, fast 5 read.

The idea of a ship built to conduct biowarfare and essentially plano-forming is exciting, but the "Chrono Warp" used to produce the biologic elements is extreme SF. There were two essential stories, the first was the expedition and it's members finding a usable biowar starship. This was excellent.

The second overreaching story is population control and frankly the author beat the topic into the dirt. I agree, yet obviously population control will cause grave loss of personal rights. In effect as the author states "the state can legally steal anything". Which is the counterpoint to the population control theme.

In essence both are terrifyingly bad. Recommended highly. Thanks, Harry! I have the fortune to own the one of the first edition paperback issues of this book March and am so glad that I haven't gotten rid of it. I had a huge library of books but have begun to purge it recently but not this one. It holds a place of honor with other old favorites of the past. No library worth it's science fiction salt would be without this incredible story. Tuf is smart, cunning and fat, being a stranger to exercise but surprisingly is a vegetarian.

What makes him unique though is his old fashioned values and manners. Which is a good thing when he comes into possession of an ancient seed ship that could change worlds and corrupt a lesser man. I especially love his affection for cats as I'm a cat lover myself. I highly recommend giving this book a read now that it is again available.

You won't regret it. I picked this book up on a whim, I have always been a fan of the movie Silent Running and thought this had a similar premise turns out it doesn't really, but that's ok. First off I have to say that the book is a little oddly constructed. I am tired of the one line author bios "Lives in Maine with his wife and four cats Martin's CV for goodness sake. The man has a lot to be proud of, but really, come on. Let's keep the ego in check a little. Besides, the book speaks for itself. I understand it is "cobbled" together from stories published previously, but for myself, coming in unawares, the chapters work just fine.

The opening chapter deals with how Tuf gets an amazing space ship, a bio-engineering "ark" in one of the less subtle moments the ship is named, um, The Ark. Then we get introduced to an over populated planet in need of help and desiring The Ark. Then a few more chapters, cleverly showing how Tuf uses the Ark in unexpected ways to both help people and satisfy his sense of morals. The books works because a it is endlessly inventive, always the hallmark of good science fiction, and b clever in execution.

Each chapter lays out an interesting problem which Tuf then proceeds to, in his own droll way, solve. Not always the way people expect or want him too, but in a way which is interesting nonetheless. I do have to agree the novel ends some what poorly. Martin boxes himself into a corner and then offers a fairly mediocre if not logical way out, but the rest of the book more than makes up for it. Hey, it's a fun read, it makes you think and imagine and yet does not dumb things down or present silly ideas just for shock or novelty value.

Highly recommended. Haviland Tuf. Lover of Cats, maker of snide remarks and healer of worlds Tuf has the largest and most powerful ship [so far] in the universe. Some say that absolute power corrupts absolutely Not so with Tuf. He could level any galaxy and bring any empire to its knees This book is a series of short stories that were written by GRRM over about a 10 year span, yet they seamlessly flow together Tuf has to save a world from overpopulation twice , save another world from sea monsters like no one can imagine, solve a worlds cruel practice of gambling on a wicked sporting event, and protect a world from a biblical prophet who has a unique ability to create plagues Fortunately he has the help of his massive starship, his massive brain and a few cats An amazing read When I look up at the stars now I wonder when Tuf will come and solve the problems of this world While we wait - I suggest you read this masterpiece to be reminded that one person can make a difference Thank you Mr.

Martin - and since Tuf never gets the recognition he deserves - Thank you Mr. Superb writing. That's the name of the game for all of Martin's works that I have read which, unfortunately, includes only the Song of Ice and Fire series and this collection of short stories. First off, I am not usually a fan of science fiction. I read a little when I was younger and was not very impressed by it. I loved the Hitchhiker's Guide of the Galaxy, but I only read that recently and enjoyed it more for the writing than for the general atmosphere.

From the time I started reading to the very end, I found myself enjoying the book immensely. Each story could easily have stood alone and been amazing, which is good because when they were originally published they did stand alone, but when they're put together it flows seamlessly. Admittedly, some stories were better than others the second of the three S'uthlamese chronicles and A Beast for Norn were not quite as good as the others , but they were all thoroughly enjoyable regardless of the overall quality.

I recently picked up Nightflyers, an even earlier collection of Martin's writings of yet a different genre, and I expect to enjoy it just as much, even though I wouldn't think of reading sci-fi horror by any other author. Most of my book purchases and reading is research, But I am totally Awed by his writing, His writing could Not be any better, I started this book yesterday and cannot put it down, I will finish it tomorrow.

The half dozen short stories centre on Haviland Tuf, a fastidious, pompous, somewhat misanthropic character, who outsmarts his foes, and appears to be the only person with integrity in the whole universe. The superior prequel story describes how he gained possession of an ancient but technologically massively advanced juggernaut - its most crucial capacity is genetics. Tuf can create virtually any species he wants - from devastating viruses to gentle cute grass-eaters to beasts of nightmare. Martin pushes this pretty hard, having his not ironic or undermined protagonist sincerely say for all intents and purposes in this case he is God because of the planet altering powers his ship gives him.

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Who the hell gave you the authority to make that decision for them? You're no better than we are. You're only human What gives you the goddamned right to play God with our world and our lives? I traffic in the life and death of worlds. Enjoying as I do these godlike abilities, can I rightfully decline the accompanying responsibility, the equally awesome burden of moral authority? I think not. A cool theme that emerges is that we should recognise our responsibility rather than just act as if it doesn't exist. Learning to be comfortable with the power we have is actually admirable.

Tuf persuades the president with the analogy of the way he sterilised his cats: " Ultimately, as you yourself will discover, there are but two fundamental options. You must either reconcile yourself to inhibiting the fertility of your cats, entirely without their consent, I might add, or, failing that, some day most assuredly you will find yourself about to cycle a bag full of newborn kittens out your airlock into the cold vacuum of space. Make no choice, and you have chosen. Failure to decide, because you lack the right, is itself a decision, First Councillor.

In abstaining, you vote. I don't want this damned power. While these two stories are easily the most challenging thematically, they don't really set the tone for the book. We then have novel accounts of how Tuf deals with the ecological problems of various planets. There is another theme: despite him solving massive problems, his solutions are generally resented by those he rescues, and his motives always unjustly impugned projection.

This may be Martin deliberately setting him up for godhood, rightly seeing that justice from above, even in response to calls for help, often just results in rank ingratitude and abuse. A weakness, however, is that no other character is given the sense or personality to actually appreciate or even understand Tuf's actions. Tuf's eccentricities and virtue could have been much more enjoyable if he'd had at least some sympathetic characters - his precious cats aren't enough for me.

Like many people who have recently read "Tuf Voyaging" for the first time, I was introduced to George R. Martin through the outstanding "Song of Ice and Fire" series. In the far future, humanity lives on scattered planets long after the collapse of the Empire. One relic survives: a 'Seedship', containing all the ancient data and technology needed to clone extinct species or create new ones. This ship falls into the hands of a trader named Haviland Tuf, who promptly sets off on a series of adventures, using the ship's capabilities to address ecological and societal problems on various planets.

Although this is certainly early Martin, I would argue that we can definitely see the same qualities here that we love in his current set of fantasy triumphs. Characters stand out for their strong personalities and unshakable convictions. Tuf, portrayed as intelligent and self-confident but still holding a sense of humor, embodies the same strength and likeability that we find in Tyrion Lannister and other unforgettable creations.

As in the "Song", minor characters are also well-developed in the space of just a few lines, creating genuine emotional intensity as they vie against Tuf. I should mention also that the humor is strong. Things that are supposed to be funny actually are funny. The best story of the bunch is "The Plague Star", the opening chapter in which we see how Tuf acquires his ship and grow introduced to his tough but patient personality. This one is a minor masterpiece that pitches an entire crew into an every-man-for-himself battle where nobody can be trusted.

Petyr Baelish and Varys would feel right at home. As with his later fantasy novels, Martin toys with the reader. He sets up situations where you think you can predict what will happen, but keeps some tricks up his sleeve until the last minute. Slightly less enchanting, but still definitely worth reading, are three stories where Tuf helps a crowded planet deal with overpopulation. I didn't find these tales excessively preachy, but there was certainly less action there than what I've come to expect from Martin.

This is a collection of short stories or novellas concerning the same main character. But, all are very well constructed and entertaining. Not as morose or introspective as Dying of the Light or some of his other Sci-Fi stories. There is no varying perspective in these stories like there is in those novels. So, you really get into the perspective of this main character. No epic story arcs since these are all reasonably short. A delightful collection of short stories, relating the travels and adventures of the oversized self-proclaimed space-faring "Ecological Engineer" Haviland Tuf.

These stories, for the most part, were orignally written in the mid's, and this collection itself was originally published in I found the Haviland Tuf main character to be so uniquely different from any other SciFi character I've ever encountered, that it was delightfully refreshing. Virtually all of the seven stories themselves are individually captivating; however, my favorite is the first from the collection, Plague Star. Plague Star is by far the longest individual story of the seven, weighing in at over pages none of the others are much more than 50 pages.

Another unique factor regarding this book are the illustrations; which I also found to be another refreshing difference versus the hundreds of other SciFi books I've read. I'd say that there are over 40 illustrations, and in all but maybe two or three cases, I found them to add to the enjoyment of the stories. Another kudo goes to the jacket art for the book - extremely well done, and oddly, nothing like the illustrations found inside. Unfortunately, it seems that the author's other works are mostly fantasy-related, and that he produced nothing else quite like these stories - so I suppose I'm going to have to be content with this limited sample of uniquely enjoyable SciFi.

Ecological engineering, cutthroat mercenaries, psionic cats, mushroom wine, a massive starship and absolute power - what's not to like? Haviland Tuf is large, bald, pale and a master of the deadpan putdown, with no qualms about upending the socities which hire him to do genetic engineering for them. He's also the sort-of hero of one of the best sf novels - actually a collection of closely-related short stories - I've ever read. I've recommended this book to many people, and without exception, they've all loved it, too.

Martin writes with wit, panache and page-turning style; now if only he would get back to writing Tuf stories as he's said he'd like to do someday My copy of this novel is from February While effort was made in getting the six short stories to mesh together, they didn't mesh well. The timeline is played fast and loose, and those cats of Tuff are ancient by the end of the novel. At one point they are referred to as 'kittens' when they are five years old. This book was written decades ago, and the writing quality inside is nothing compared to what George R.

Martin has achieved in his 'Song of Fire and Ice' series. Even though he wrote em, it was close to 30 years ago, so don't get your hopes up. As for the stories themselves, I enjoyed the first one for intrigue and last for what defines a god. The dueling plagues in the 'Moses' story I found pretty stupid, and the others didn't have strong themes or points. Tuf as a character has no romantic interests at all, is unflappably robotic, and quirky about human contact. Cat loving with obstinate politeness and a desire to help people was my post-novel impression.

Other characters in the stories are not really relevant, this is a Tuf-centric collection. Should you get this? As a novel it didn't do much for me. It is an average AND dated sci-fi read. Martin keeps talking about planets running out of petroleum, and mentions punching numbers into a wrist computer. If you like vintage sci-fi short stories, go ahead and buy the softcover. If you really love cats, then you'll probably want to buy hardcover. It is my personal opinion that much better sci-fi books and George R. Martin novels are out there. Originally a collection of shorts published in Analog magazine as a continuing saga, Tuf Voyaging is all the pieces put together into a smooth novel with an extremely unique protagonist.

When upon arriving, they discover it is not a star at all but a long abandoned Seedship, left over from the war a thousand years ago. Their first problem is getting past the ship's automated defenses and boarding, their second problem is the greed that has filled every head except Tuf's. Tuf, of course, winds out in charge of the Seedship, named the Ark.

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The first chapter details these events, and is most excellent! Eccentric and droll would be the best way to describe Haviland Tuf, a very tall and very large bald man. He travels alone, except for his cats, Havoc and Mushroom. The cat family expands, and Tuf is inspired by his human encounters to name the new kittens Suspicion, Doubt, Hostility, Ingratitude, and Foolishness. Tuf is a loner, intelligent, peculiar, a vegetarian with an enormous appetite, and a dry wit. The Seedship is a marvelous invention of Martin's, thirty kilometers long and three kilometers high, the pinnacle of the old Earth Ecological Corps inventions.

Inside the Ark are stored millions and millions of cell samples, and all the equipment, including a chronowarp engine, to genetically engineer or clone any species. Travel with Tuf through space, and revisit the planet S'uthlam three chapters have S'uthlam where Tully Mune is the acerbic Portmaster who lives her life in zero gravity. Tully's will and determination prove to be a match for Tuf, and the chapters in which they face off with each other are excellent.

This is SciFi at it's best, very character oriented with enough strange planets, strange beings, strange traditions, and technology to satisfy the hungriest of SciFi palates. Even more enjoyable if you are a cat lover like myself. Get out and buy this book now! Another short story collection by Martin. Tuf, the central characater is quite strange. He is cold, and dispassionate. He is also a man living basically alone with cats. Not that normal, there. His really big ship has some impressive capabilities, and he uses them to try and solve what he sees as environmental problems, among other things.

This brings him into conflict with many other people. He is not your likable hero kind of guy, more cold and pragmatic. Martin If you want to acquire an AI ship and shaft the people you hire to do it for you, make sure it likes you. Also, if someone says there is Tyrannosaur behind you, believe them. If the Tyrannosaur is hungry, ensure preplanning acquisition of serious artillery. Those who think the storyline and characterization are "shallow" are missing the point.

Yes, Tuf is an odd and unsympathetic character. He's solitary and finds human contact distasteful; he admits to several flaws and possesses even more; and his seeming arrogance is, at times, distinctly unappealing.

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His code of conduct will not allow him to let injustice or brutality stand unchallenged. And, where a simpler man might respond to dogfighting arenas or similar cruelty with ineffectual outrage, Tuf takes it a step further. He turns their own behavior--their own shortsightedness, selfishness, or greed--against them. He teaches them a better way, even as he systematically disrupts and dismantles their socities to replace them with better, more ethical ones. The world that demands monster-killers after heedlessly slaughtering some native sea life is forced to the bargaining table by the world's TRUE natives.

The culture where status is based on arena dogfighting is overrun with a new ecology where large predators can no longer exist--and neither can the arenas. The reckless breed-at-any-price world constantly teetering on the brink of starvation or war is offered salvation in the form of miracle crops that also cause sterility. And so on. Tuf is cold, yes, but his relentless pursuit of ethical solutions forces the cruel and cowardly societies to change, unwillingly, into better ones.

The concerns about "absolute power" are inevitable, and are not answered in a reassuring way The intelligent man of ethics has a responsibility to force change on the brutal and stupid if they won't accept it any other way , for the benefit of all. It's not a democratic conclusion--but in times of ecological and ethical crisis, it's the only option. Being a man of peace, Tuf goes into business as an "ecological engineer", traveling the stars, solving the ecological crises of foolish mortals everywhere, using the godlike capabilities of the Ark and his own god-like power of infallible judgment.

This is fairly-enjoyable light reading, a bit reminiscent of early Jack Vance an influence acknowledged by the author. But, by the end, I was fed up with Tuf, and wanted to punch him in his smug, arrogant face. Was I supposed to feel this way? Martin did not correct him, but I am not entirely sure he agreed. Maybe we're just supposed to buy into the megomaniacal power fantasy. Contents include: - "Prologue": A short, mostly-disconnected fragment about a dying man bitterly cursing his fate on a disease-ridden planet.

Contrasts strikingly with the cushy invulnerability and immortality? Originally published in a magazine, where this outcome might have been less predictable. Focuses on the "playing God" theme. But to what purpose? The worst story here. Their religion loosely modeled on Catholicism is evidently the main culprit. This one seems a bit preachy.

A very clever plot involving a "seed ship" and a kind of "accidental tourist" turned helpful ship captain that winds around and around. Haviland's help through the ship's resources always comes with a price. I always found myself cheering for Haviland Tuf. Very satisfying read. I read this book donkeys years ago, and found it again recently, and enjoyed it just as much now, as I did as a child, there is some good "big science" type stuff in the idea and ethics of genetics, and a good bit of wish fulfilment who wouldn't want to roam the universe in a big bully mega death dealing out ship?

Tuf lack of character makes him an even more engaging character, I personally found him quite likeable and his ethical stance makes him the ideal, if not the only person suitable in the Galaxy to take charge of the seedship, and of course he faces many trials that would seek to "tempt" him from the path of righteousness. I am re-reading that last sentence and am wondering if there is a religious allegorical theme running through the overall story.. This is a fun book, but great sci-fi, well and humorously told.

Very eloquent and very challenging. Martin brings up some very interessting questions but also takes a firm stance on how he would handle the situation if he was provided with godly powers. I wish there was more of it, I could have continued reading about Tuf's voyages for at least another pages. Thanks Mr. I might not like smelly dungeons, medieval savages and white walkers bathing in rivers of blood but I do like good sci-fi.

What your book has reminded me of is the work of Strugatzki brothers so now I feel compelled of reading some more sci-fi originating from your pen. I think that this is the first book that I have read by this author. It can be enjoyed as a light read about a quirky character who travels to interestingly different cultures. On the other hand, it can be thought-provoking about the issues of bioengineering, war, profit, self-defense I don't remember why I chose to download it from the library.

I think that it was the sales blurb about a guy with a powerful spaceship who liked cats. It's the first book I've read by Martin - after finishing it, I had to look him up to see what else he's written, and whatta you know? Tuf's dry humor was right up my alley. He reminds me a bit of Doctor Who - as do his solutions. I wish it were a series! I've read literally thousands of science fiction novels in the last 35 years all the masters back to the very beginning , and Tuf Voyaging rates as one of the top five science fiction novels of all time. When it comes to a plot and ideas that that stick with you, it rates number one.

I've waited in vain for a sequel or a film or a television dramatization. Tuf Voyaging tells the story of a highly moral man gifted with virtually absolute power. I read it every few years and continue to flip flop about the rightness and wrongness of his final acts. Was Tuf corrupted, or was he indeed uncorruptible? In the end, was he a man, or was he a god? It's that good. It doesn't let you go. The book touches on issues humanity faces everyday, issues that are becoming increasingly more urgent: populations outstripping food sources, species extinctions, short term political thinking, cruelty, abuses of power, etc.

I keep two, very much read and battered copies of the book, one for myself and one to lend to others. This is the book that sent me in search of everything else George R. Martin has ever written. While his writing is always excellent, Tuf Voyaging is his greatest masterpiece. The book creates a variety of emotions in the reader, amusement it has wonderfully humorous sections , anticipation, dread, exhilaration, and uncertainty.

Once again, it's unforgettable and has been responsible for single handedly hooking several young people I know on science fiction. If you haven't read it, track it down and do so. If you have read it, read it again and see if your opinions have changed. If you have any influence on the author, demand the character return in another book! If you are a fan of 'A Song of Ice and Fire' read this book. If you are a fan of science-fiction read this book. If you are a fan of reading read this book.

I, probably like most of the other reviewers, started reading George R. Martin's 'Ice and Fire' series years ago. But only recently, while rereading 'Ice and Fire', did I decide to get hold of some of Martin's other work. But sadly, it just didn't compare with Ice and Fire. A week later I stumbled across a reprint of 'Dying of the Light' in a bookstore and I was all too happy to give another of George's works a go. I was pleasantly rewarded again. However, it didn't really come close to comparing with 'Ice and Fire' either.

Enter 'Tuf Voyaging'. I ordered this paperback edition off of the store several days ago. When it arrived I took some time before starting it but I finally cracked it open last night at around 1 am. I finished it at about 5 am. It was that good. No, it was better than good, it's the most satisfying and awesome sci-fi collection or novel I have ever read. The books follows the story of titular character Haviland Tuf.

Tuf is an honest cat-loving space trader who has fallen on hard times because of his quirky tastes in trade-goods he is likely the only interstellar merchant who has a cargo-hold full of alien orgy masks. But Tuf is also singularly brilliant and possessed of a deeply compassionate nature though at times he admittedly seems more caustic than compassionate.

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So when Tuf finds himself trapped aboard an unimaginably powerful ancient starship that holds the ecological secrets of virtually every planet in the galaxy with a variety of cutthroat mercenaries and heartless scientists he is forced to take action to prevent the ship from falling into deadly hands.

This begins the most wildly entertaining space saga you're likely to ever read. As readers of 'Ice and Fire' likely know, George R. Martin is a fantastic storyteller and perhaps the greatest voice in the history of fantasy. Sure, if you're a traditionalist and want absolutely comprehensive storytelling read Tolkien, but if you want truly compelling prose then read Martin.

And if you are somehow afraid of sci-fi and are pondering whether a few dollars spent in the sci-fi games will be worth it think no more. The endless creativity and the incredible character-building featured in 'Tuf' is proof positive that George R. If you haven't started reading him yet you're way behind. And there's no better way to start than with 'Tuf Voyaging'. Preferably in blood.

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That one predates my HBO deal. It is a feature film script, not a television pilot. So cross your fingers, kiddies. Edited at pm UTC. Is there any chancethat Roberts Rebellion ever gets made into a Full length feature film? The rebellion seems like the perfect big budget movie, and it would be pretty cool to see Robert smash Rhaegar at the battle of the Trident.

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I think the chances of any sort of film or tv version of Robert's Rebellion are remote. To tell the truth, I have never understood why there is so much interest in this particular prequel. If I then went on to write a novel, a trilogy, or a screenplay about same, it would be a novel, trilogy, or screenplay utterly without surprise, so the reader would know everything that was going to happen. I'd just be connecting the dots. I don't see the point. I've always thought a separate novel would be cool.

Just because the table of contents would be great to look at when you see all the POV characters. It would be interesting to actually be inside the head of these legends. But I could see why it would be a difficult story to write since there would be no suprises. I'd guess it's the same impulse that make fans of historical fiction want to read a good story about well-known historical figures and well-known historical events. The dramatization of things already known has its pleasures.

Admittedly, the best of them tend to find some interesting and unique lens through which to show these stories as ROME did, through the eyes of two common soldiers. Maybe seeing the rebellion from inside Ned's head or Robert's isn't really going to be that interesting. But, I don't know, the rebellion as seen through the eyes of the Mad King and Howland Reed might be an interesting reading experience.

Whether it'd be an interesting enough writing experience is, of course, something else entirely. That said, I'm not especially interested in the idea of a Robert's Rebellion prequel. I knew how the Lord of the Rings movies were going to play out but I still enjoyed them well, not so much the last one. I think the fascination comes from the fact that it's a story that in ASOIAF is in the midst of passing from recent history into legend.

We just have the warmed over, romanticized highlights to go by so everything is larger than life. Of course it's our nature to not just leave it like that but to want to pin it down and suck the marrow out of the story's bones. We want to see the Tower of Joy acted out in the same way we want to see our other favorite scenes from the books acted out.

I think it's better left to the imagination, but if you build it they will come. Aren't you concerned about working with SyFy channel? You had harsh words for the Battlestar Galactica ending - "God did it? I've seen Clarion students left bloody and beaten for endings like that!

Of course, I feel that was entirely merited the second half of that show really took advantage of the viewers and painted itself into a corner. My brother Aegon reigned after him, when I had refused the throne, and he was followed by his son Aerys, whom they called the Mad King. Has Jaehaerys II been officially removed?

How was the decision made to remove him? What about the wider ramifications of this? And Aerys was insane due to his incestuous parentage, while Aegon V apparently married for love outside of the family though of course, it was compound generations of years of inbreeding. Moreover, this affects how the TV-continuity will establish the relationship between the Targaryens and Baratheons. Robert's claim to the throne and by extension, Stannis and Renly's was based on this "bit of dragon-blood".

Is this now moved around so that Rhaelle is a sister of Aegon V? Or perhaps alongside them? OR, can the TV series later retcon this and just say that Aegon meant to say "grandson" and as a year old man angrily recounting the fall of his House, it was just a slip of the tongue? I realize a TV show is unlikely, but I'd be happy to get just a five-second clip of Conleth Hill saying "Kindly cease flinging about my cats.